tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8241505550351823820.post567407332436667542..comments2024-02-11T06:57:23.174-05:00Comments on SchansBlog: converts to Christianity vs. disciples of Jesus ChristEric Schansberghttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16147388189415035752noreply@blogger.comBlogger3125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8241505550351823820.post-15304882418210554962007-11-30T14:58:00.000-05:002007-11-30T14:58:00.000-05:00I am slow in getting around to reading it, but I l...I am slow in getting around to reading it, but I love this article. I think one of the problems in the seeker-sensitive movement is an addiction to drawing large crowds and "feeling successful" and an extreme hesitancy to do anything that might drive the crowd away. In John 6 Jesus drew a huge crowd and fed the 5000 but in the end he saw many disciples quit following him because his teachings were too hard for them to accept. We don't need to purposely drive people away but if a gospel message that calls for devout discipleship drives people away, so be it.Gingerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08667580387985824990noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8241505550351823820.post-85673081194676978302007-11-12T12:08:00.000-05:002007-11-12T12:08:00.000-05:00Great points Dave!I wish I had the made the point ...Great points Dave!<BR/><BR/>I wish I had the made the point that you do: your assessment of a common reduction of Christian maturity to correct doctrine-- and, I would add, engaging in certain practices (or even more accurately, in avoiding certain practices).Eric Schansberghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16147388189415035752noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8241505550351823820.post-70943527457452858872007-11-12T11:14:00.000-05:002007-11-12T11:14:00.000-05:00I agree with the general criticism of the seeker b...I agree with the general criticism of the seeker based approach but the man making the criticism seems to be a bit harsh and at least from the comments provided does not address whether the alternative was any better or even worse. For example if you were in a "traditional" church during this "seeker" movement it is apparent that this traditional approach didn't produce disciples either. People can be entertained in any number of ways and at least the "seeker" movement has an audience to work with. The main problem with traditional churches is the hateful insistence of many "mature" believers to be "right" on doctrine v. loving others and discipling people in a loving way. Who on earth would want to be a Christian if it didn't change your life such that you actually loved other people and you could overcome sin? I'd rather ride my mt. bike than waste my life with so-called Christians arguing over style of worship and whether so and so is saved or whether they can be perfect or they are just sinners and will always be...Notwithstanding all of the above--yours was a great post!dudevf1https://www.blogger.com/profile/15776748595424674008noreply@blogger.com