Thursday, November 1, 2007

self-professing Christians in the News this week

OK, the Kitna story was funny. This is just pathetic/sad...

Members of a fundamentalist Kansas church ordered to pay nearly $11 million in damages to a grieving father smiled as they walked out of the courtroom, vowing that the verdict would not deter them from protesting at military funerals. Members promised to picket future funerals with placards bearing such slogans as "Thank God for dead soldiers" and "God hates fags."...

The group believes that U.S. deaths in the Iraq war are punishment for the nation's tolerance of homosexuality. They say they are entitled to protest at funerals under the First Amendment, which guarantees freedom of speech and religion.

Albert Snyder sued the Topeka, Kan., church after a protest last year at the funeral of his son, Marine Lance Cpl. Matthew Snyder, who was killed in Iraq. He claimed the protests intruded upon what should have been a private ceremony and sullied his memory of the event.

A jury agreed. On Wednesday, the church and three of its leaders _ Fred Phelps and his two daughters, Phelps-Roper and Rebekah Phelps-Davis were found liable for invasion of privacy and intent to inflict emotional distress. Jurors awarded Snyder $2.9 million in compensatory damages and $8 million in punitive damages....

Snyder said that on the day of the funeral, he didn't see the protesters or their signs, only the tops of the signs. "But a lot of people at the church did see it," he said. "And it was splattered all over the newspapers the next day."

It's unclear whether Snyder will be able to collect the damages. The assets of the church and the defendants are less than a million dollars, mainly in homes, cars and retirement accounts, defense attorney Jonathan Katz said. The church has about 75 members and is funded by tithing....

Trebilcock later called the verdict "Judgment Day for the Westboro Baptist Church."

"They're always talking about other people's Judgment Day. Well, this is theirs," he said....

Phelps and his ilk will face a different Judgment Day-- and, in the spirit of imprecatory prayer, I pray that it's soon. But they probably won't face this one. They can hide whatever assets they have-- and I'd guess that the odds are quite high that the verdict will be oveturned or the award lessened considerably.

1 Comments:

At November 2, 2007 at 7:35 AM , Blogger Unknown said...

Phelps and his ilk will face a different Judgment Day-- and, in the spirit of imprecatory prayer, I pray that it's soon.

I agree - moreover that God would "break the teeth in their mouths" and that they would be "as chaff before the wind." I would love to see them silenced by the chastisement of God.

But they probably won't face this one. They can hide whatever assets they have-- and I'd guess that the odds are quite high that the verdict will be oveturned or the award lessened considerably

Honestly, I hope it is. Despite my dislike for their message and manner of presenting it, I can't endorse a court conviction that infringes on religious speech. That is going to come back to haunt us for sure. The message of this verdict is that religious speech can be censored if it is offensive to enough people - is that really something we want to endorse?

For those who aren't religious, do you want your speech to only be limited to that which doesn't offend very many people?

I know it's distasteful to take their part in anything but as Mencken said, "The trouble with fighting for human freedom is that one spends most of one's time defending scoundrels. For it is against scoundrels that oppressive laws are first aimed, and oppression must be stopped at the beginning if it is to be stopped at all."

 

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